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Monday, June 9, 2014

Mass Shooting: A Vegas Notion

UPDATE:  Las Vegas newspaper reports that the "revolution" the two shooters shouted about was likely a right-wing one--they were white supremacists and in a chilling note they draped the classic right-wing conspiracy nut "Gadsden" flag over the two dead officers.
The shooters then stripped the officers of their weapons and ammunition and badges, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. They then covered the officers with something that featured the Gadsden flag, a yellow banner with a coiled snake above the words, “Don’t tread on Me.”
The flag is named for Christopher Gadsden a Revolutionary War general who designed it. It has recently come back in vogue as an adopted symbol of the American tea party movement....
Like many of the neighbors contacted, Krista Koch said she didn’t know the couple’s last names. She described them as “militant.” They talked about planning to kill police officers, “going underground” and not coming out until the time was right to kill.
Brandon Monroe, 22, has lived in the complex for about two weeks. He said the man who lived in the apartment that was being searched often rambled about conspiracy theories. He often wore camouflage or dressed as Peter Pan to work as a Fremont Street Experience street performer. A woman lived with him, Monroe said, but he didn’t see her as often.
They were weird people, Monroe said, adding that he thought the couple used methamphetamines.
The man told Monroe he had been kicked off Cliven Bundy’s ranch 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas while people from throughout the U.S. gathered there in protest of a Bureau of Land Management roundup of Bundy’s cattle.
Reached Sunday, the rancher’s wife, Carol Bundy, said the shooting and the April standoff against the federal government were not linked.
In a newer report, CNN naturally refuses to ID them as right-wing nuts, leaving vague that they behind "flag" and manifesto.  Just hated cops.  ABC does better, mentioning swastika symbols found at apartment and so on.

Earlier:  Just now, the latest:  unconfirmed but likely at least 3 killed near or inside a Wal Mart in Las Vegas, possibly including police officers, and more shot, and claim that more than one shooter and some shouting before hand about "the revolution has begun" or some such.  Seems police shot at pizza place and suspects then ran inside the Wal Mart.  Seems like victims at Wal Mart in addition to the police officer at the police place, plus a report that one of the suspects is down. Update: This new report has the suspects shooting only one at Wal Mart, then going to back of store and carrying out suicide pact.  More here on suicides, and it was white man and woman.

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